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TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

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TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-01-24, 18:17

This evening I will do the penultimate lesson of Filippi's Le Latin, so my next projects will be, in this order, Hindi, Danish and Modern Greek.

Hindi
For now my main aim is really to learn to read Devanagari. I have never known too much about India unfortunately and now I would like to make up for that. When I did the same with Arabic it went marvelously, so I want really to see what happens. I hope I will get a better insight into the Indian subcontinent.

Danish
It's almost ten years that I have been procrastinating the study of this language, when I first went to Denmark and fell in love with the culture. Soon it will be time to tackle it once and for all.

Greek
Some years ago I did some lessons in Ancient Greek. Now, however, I think I can profite more from modern Dhimotikí. On top of that I'm tired when I skim a text in modern Greek to understand something thanks to Greek roots I know and Romance loans here and there.
So after the first two it will be your turn, dear Greek!

Objective: only enjoyment and cultural enrichment. I think anyway that Greek and Danish will help me more in general to improve my Germanic and Greek vocabulary.

Study Plan: three Assimils, one after the other. Day by day, step by step.

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Meera » 2015-01-24, 20:53

You are doing Hindi?? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-01-24, 21:40

Thank you for support, Meera!
Technically I will do Hindustani, because knowing alreaby the Arabic script it would be a pity not to consider Urdu at least marginally.

So far Hindi sounds okay to me, I've seen there is quite an amount of media and... well it is one of world's major languages, but both exotic and Indo-European. So what else had I been waiting for? :D
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby vijayjohn » 2015-01-24, 22:18

Shabash! :woohoo: Good luck! :mrgreen: Are you going to be posting on the Hindi/Urdu forum? :D

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-01-24, 23:58

Thanks Vijay. :)

Well, sooner or later I shall definitely post something there, if not only to try out the little bit I learn.
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Levike » 2015-01-25, 0:01

Are you planning to get to speak Danish or Greek fluently?
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-01-25, 1:02

Definitely not!
I'm fine with the basics and passive understanding.

The only way I could maybe aim for fluency would be if I went to live in those countries for a period of at least some years, which I am not planning by the way.

Regarding Greek I do plan, in the future, to achieve some reading fluency in koine Greek.
That however will be a whole different project.
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby vijayjohn » 2015-01-25, 1:02

Itikar wrote:Thanks Vijay. :)

No problem. 8-)
Well, sooner or later I shall definitely post something there, if not only to try out the little bit I learn.

Great! I'm looking forward to seeing anything you have to post. :mrgreen:

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Meera » 2015-01-25, 5:35

Itikar wrote:Thank you for support, Meera!
Technically I will do Hindustani, because knowing alreaby the Arabic script it would be a pity not to consider Urdu at least marginally.

So far Hindi sounds okay to me, I've seen there is quite an amount of media and... well it is one of world's major languages, but both exotic and Indo-European. So what else had I been waiting for? :D


Yes Hindi is a great language to learn, its really rewarding. :mrgreen:
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Postby Massimiliano B » 2015-02-02, 0:04

Ciao Itikar!
What do you use for learning Danish?
Non è tempo di lutti / né di follie. / Questo è tempo di Dio. / Che aspettiamo? / Quale segno? / Quale miracolo? /…. (Elena Bono, Morte di Adamo)

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-02-02, 11:12

I'll use the old edition of Assimil Danish that I bought before it went out of print. :D

For the dictionary I have the Gyldendal-Zanichelli which I buyed in Strøget some years ago.
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-02-04, 0:41

Oh bravo nanni. :p Fammi sapere come va colla pronuncia danese. Mi ricordo di un meme che al momento non riesco a trovare che diceva "il danese non è una lingua, è una malattia della gola". :lol:

Anche l'hindi sembra affascinante, un po' di tempo fa guardai MasterChef India (in hindi, non so se esiste anche in altre lingue dell'India) per curiosità. :lol: Tuttavia una cosa che mi infastidisce parecchio è l'odiosissima alternanza tra inglese e hindi. :x

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby vijayjohn » 2015-02-04, 1:57

IpseDixit wrote:non so se esiste anche in altre lingue dell'India

No. Ci sono tre versioni di MasterChef in India, tutti trasmessi per Star Plus, che solamente trasmette programmi in hindi.
Tuttavia una cosa che mi infastidisce parecchio è l'odiosissima alternanza tra inglese e hindi. :x

L'ultimo programma culinario che ho visto in hindi si chiama "Mirch Masala." :P ([mɪrtʃ] significa 'pepe'). Non parlano mai inglese in quel programma per quanto ne so ma i sottotitoli sono in inglese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMXsagiOWVE

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-02-04, 12:44

vijayjohn wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:non so se esiste anche in altre lingue dell'India

No. Ci sono tre versioni di MasterChef in India, tutte trasmesse per Star Plus, che solamente trasmette solamente programmi in hindi.


Ok, grazie per l'informazione. :)

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-02-04, 13:30

IpseDixit wrote:Oh bravo nanni. :p Fammi sapere come va colla pronuncia danese. Mi ricordo di un meme che al momento non riesco a trovare che diceva "il danese non è una lingua, è una malattia della gola". :lol: 
Di danese ne parleremo tra un mesetto o due. :mrgreen:

In realtà son arrivato al danese quasi per destino, essendoci stato ben due volte a Copenaghen e conoscendo anche diversa gente di lassú per lavoro. Fino a qualche mese tuttavia propendevo quasi piú per il norvegese. Poi però mi son trovato con tanto di corso, frasario e dizionario in casa e allora mi son arreso.
Anche l'hindi sembra affascinante, un po' di tempo fa guardai MasterChef India (in hindi, non so se esiste anche in altre lingue dell'India) per curiosità. :lol: Tuttavia una cosa che mi infastidisce parecchio è l'odiosissima alternanza tra inglese e hindi. :x
Non so molto dell'India, come ho già detto, per cui non son a conoscenza di quanto sian frequenti questo genere d'alternanze. Volevo anche mettere un po' d'impressioni che ho avuto nella mia prima settimana ma mi son reso conto che l'indostano è una lingua molto ricca e una settimana è davvero troppo poco secondo me per averne un quadro anche minimamente significativo.

Col devanagari, tuttavia, si procede discretamente bene. Già dopo il primo giorno leggiucchiavo le prime paroline senza troppa fatica, però, allo stesso tempo, lo trovo alquanto insidioso. Confondo ancora lettere simili e non son mai del tutto sicuro di quel che leggo. E non ho ancora affrontato i nessi complessi! In parole spicce lo trovo piú difficile dell'arabo ma molto meglio dei kana.

Rimane invece una gran soddisfazione nell'essere in grado di decifrare quei caratteri fin ad ora incomprensibili. Mi sa perciò che valuterò seriamente di far un po' di Yiddish in futuro cosí da imparare anche l'alfabeto ebraico.
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-02-04, 16:09

Il corsivo del devanagari com'è? Non l'ho mai visto...

Per quanto riguarda l'alfabeto ebraico, potresti trovarlo un pochino ostico all'inizio per il fatto che molte lettere sono simili e alcune variano solo per la lunghezza di alcuni trattini o per l'assenza di essi, poi per il resto son solo 22 caratteri (almeno nell'ebraico moderno). Il problema però non è l'alfabeto di per se, è imparare a leggere le parole il problema :twisted: (quantomeno nell'ebraico moderno).

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-02-04, 16:26

IpseDixit wrote:Il corsivo del devanagari com'è? Non l'ho mai visto...
In verità neanch'io. Ho provato a cercare eppure ho trovato soltanto questo:
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Sembra molto piú simile allo stampatello rispetto al nostro.
Per quanto riguarda l'alfabeto ebraico, potresti trovarlo un pochino ostico all'inizio per il fatto che molte lettere sono simili e alcune variano solo per la lunghezza di alcui trattini o per l'assenza di essi, poi per il resto son solo 22 caratteri (almeno nell'ebraico moderno). Il problema però non è l'alfabeto di per se, è imparare a leggere le parole il problema :twisted: (quantomeno nell'ebraico moderno).
Infatti sopra ho ben scritto Yiddish. :P
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-02-04, 16:29

Itikar wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:Il corsivo del devanagari com'è? Non l'ho mai visto...
In verità neanch'io. Ho provato a cercare eppure ho trovato soltanto questo:


Eppure dovrà pur esserci... non mi sembra fattibile scrivere velocemente col devanagari "stampato".

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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby Itikar » 2015-02-04, 16:32

Beh, è molto tondo e assai piú corsivo del nostro.
Te fai tutte le letterine che son tondine, poi alla fine tiri una riga su tutta la parola.
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Re: TAC 2015 Itikar (Hindi, Danish, Greek)

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-02-04, 16:40

Bah, a me così ad occhio sembra ci siano un po' troppe linee da fare, però posso anche sbagliarmi.


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