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TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Spanish and Greek

Postby Aóristos » 2015-01-25, 18:17

Persian (fa) Persian (فارسی)

I've been learning Persian since January of last year. I've been doing lots of active as well as passive study. This year I intend on increasing my vocabulary and mastering my usage of idioms, especially polite language. I'm going through Lesson 6 of Thackston's Introduction to Persian, 4th ed.. I'm on Lesson 5/25. I've used other courses for Persian, but I just recently got Thackston, so I intend on absorbing every bit of vocabulary that lies within, finally reach an upper intermediate level and start using colloquial language more often.

Urdu (ur) Urdu (اردو)

This will be the year I finally tackle Urdu. I've reached a certain point in my Persian studies where a knowledge of Urdu would deepen my appreciation of Persian without confusing me. Urdu was a wanderlust of mine in the past but I did not pursue it. I'm using the 1999 edition of Teach Yourself Urdu (as well as Teach Yourself Urdu Script for my handwriting skills). I will probably only be able to study through to an A2 level if I don't find any more well-written resources, so please share!

Spanish (es) Spanish (Español)

I've been learning Spanish for several years but have never been able to study up to an advanced B2-C1 level. I'm studying from an intense but complete course I bought in Greece called Μάθε μόνος σου Ισπανικά ("Learn Spanish On Your Own). I will also use "Practice Makes Perfect Spanish Vocabulary" for additional vocabulary acquisition.

Greek (el) Greek (Ελληνικά)

This year I intend on reviving my Greek fluency. I will read a few Greek-language books I have, but I also have to work on my colloquial language. My spoken Greek still comes across as stilted-sounding, even though nowadays I avoid using formal synonyms in my speech. I will continue improving my vocabulary though, including formal synonyms, and even read these Greek-American newspapers I have that are written in a somewhat puristic register of the modern language that employ a load of erudite vocabulary.
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby Itikar » 2015-01-25, 22:31

Let me say you have good tastes. :)
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby eskandar » 2015-01-26, 0:01

Great choice of languages! Since you asked for more resources for Urdu - there is a "Colloquial Urdu" which is just OK but might be worthwhile for you if you are mostly interested in speaking rather than reading. Ruth Laila Schmidt's "Urdu: An Essential Grammar" lives up to its name. You can find a PDF of it (along with Colloquial Urdu) online - definitely check that out. CM Naim also has an Introductory Urdu textbook which is available freely online (vol 1, vol 2). Once you've covered most of the basic grammar and can start reading, there are a few good Urdu readers out there that will help you progress.
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby Aóristos » 2015-01-26, 0:50

Itikar wrote:Let me say you have good tastes. :)
Good luck!

Thanks! Do we have any languages in common?

eskandar wrote:Great choice of languages! Since you asked for more resources for Urdu - there is a "Colloquial Urdu" which is just OK but might be worthwhile for you if you are mostly interested in speaking rather than reading. Ruth Laila Schmidt's "Urdu: An Essential Grammar" lives up to its name. You can find a PDF of it (along with Colloquial Urdu) online - definitely check that out. CM Naim also has an Introductory Urdu textbook which is available freely online (vol 1, vol 2). Once you've covered most of the basic grammar and can start reading, there are a few good Urdu readers out there that will help you progress.

Thanks for the recommendations. I'll buy the Essential Grammar once I complete the TY course. What are the good readers? Do they employ Nastaliq script?
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby Itikar » 2015-01-26, 1:49

Aóristos wrote:
Itikar wrote:Let me say you have good tastes. :)
Good luck!

Thanks! Do we have any languages in common?

Hindustani and, within some months, Greek. :)
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby eskandar » 2015-01-26, 2:17

Aóristos wrote:What are the good readers? Do they employ Nastaliq script?
Gopi Chand Narang's "Readings in Literary Urdu Prose" is pretty good, and it's written in Nasta'liq (but with big, well-written letters, which makes it less challenging if you're new to the script). CM Naim's Readings in Urdu: prose and poetry is also online. I also highly recommend you spend some time checking out Frances Pritchett's website which is a treasure trove of resources for Urdu at all levels.
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby Aóristos » 2015-01-26, 18:28

Itikar wrote:Hindustani and, within some months, Greek. :)

Good luck! Did anything in particular arouse your interest in Hindi and Greek?
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby Itikar » 2015-01-26, 18:33

Thank you! :)
For Hindi it is a journey for discovery, I'm driven mainly by interest in the script and to understand Indian culture better.
For Greek it is a long story, I like Greek culture from a very early age.
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby Aóristos » 2015-01-27, 3:12

eskandar wrote:Gopi Chand Narang's "Readings in Literary Urdu Prose" is pretty good, and it's written in Nasta'liq (but with big, well-written letters, which makes it less challenging if you're new to the script). CM Naim's Readings in Urdu: prose and poetry is also online. I also highly recommend you spend some time checking out Frances Pritchett's website which is a treasure trove of resources for Urdu at all levels.

I'll be sure to bookmark both those sites for once I've attained a working knowledge of Urdu (which I still haven't fully attained for Persian).

Would you also happen to know of any resources for colloquial Arabic? I have the Kalām Gamīl course for Egyptian but it's supposed to be used with a knowledge of Fuṣḥā. I'm not exactly new to Fuṣḥā, but I don't have a very deep knowledge of it, so I'm going to just study a useful colloquial dialect (and one that I like very much) and save Fuṣḥā for later.
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby eskandar » 2015-01-27, 10:16

If Egyptian is what you're after, you should also check out the books Kullu Tamam!, Kalimni 'Arabi, and 'Arabi Liblib, which are all for Egyptian colloquial Arabic. If I remember right, the first two don't assume advanced knowledge of fuS7a; I don't know much about the third. There are other books out there, of course, for Levantine and other dialects. There's also the Michel Thomas Method for Egyptian Arabic which is quite good, especially for getting started.
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Arabic, Spanish and Greek

Postby Meera » 2015-01-28, 20:56

Ahlan ya Mike! I'm doing Urdu and Arabic too :D
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Re: TAC 2015 - Mike - Persian, Urdu, Spanish and Greek

Postby Aóristos » 2015-03-08, 0:05

It's been over a month since I've updated this thread!

 (fa) Good news on the Persian front! I've completed up to Lesson 16/25 in Thackston (which means I put the vocabulary for each lesson in Anki and completed the exercises for each lesson), and I'm glad to be able to say that B2 level is on the horizon for this year! But I still have quite a bit of Thackston to go over (it's quite a comprehensive, if not slightly exhaustive, course). I'm finally starting to develop an ear for the language, and my idioms and lexicon are gradually increasing.

I haven't done anything with any other languages, because I'm trying my best to focus exclusively on Persian before I move on to Urdu. (I plan on learning the latter through the former.)
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