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General Discussion

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Re: General Discussion

Postby Koko » 2014-12-25, 20:17

księżycowy wrote:On a separate note, after a comment or two by Vijay I did some digging around and have discovered that the Métis are considered an Aboriginal people by Canada, so I think Michif should be considered a NAIL. If it's good enough for Canada, it's good enough for me! :wink:

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How could the Métis not be an Aboriginal people?
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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Re: General Discussion

Postby Bingles » 2014-12-25, 20:38

Koko wrote:
księżycowy wrote:On a separate note, after a comment or two by Vijay I did some digging around and have discovered that the Métis are considered an Aboriginal people by Canada, so I think Michif should be considered a NAIL. If it's good enough for Canada, it's good enough for me! :wink:

I've asked the admins to move the thread.

How could the Métis not be an Aboriginal people?


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Re: General Discussion

Postby vijayjohn » 2014-12-25, 20:38

Koko wrote:
księżycowy wrote:On a separate note, after a comment or two by Vijay I did some digging around and have discovered that the Métis are considered an Aboriginal people by Canada, so I think Michif should be considered a NAIL. If it's good enough for Canada, it's good enough for me! :wink:

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How could the Métis not be an Aboriginal people?

South of this country, Mestizos are considered to be neither indigenous nor white but rather a third distinct group.

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Re: General Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2014-12-25, 21:11

Koko wrote:How could the Métis not be an Aboriginal people?

I think Bingles and Vijay have summed it up well. It’s because they are of mixed heritage, and that makes it hard to tack down a definitive answer.
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Re: General Discussion

Postby Koko » 2014-12-25, 21:18

Strange, they have always been considered an Aboriginal people here. They participate in our Native Graduation ceremonies and other Native activities.
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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Re: General Discussion

Postby vijayjohn » 2014-12-25, 21:28

Whether a group of people constitutes a separate ethnic group or not is never as straightforward as it might seem. Just to give you a few more examples, in India, Anglo-Indians are (probably more often than not) treated as basically British people, and many of them also consider themselves British, even though the British did not consider them as such. I've heard that the Kristang, who are of mixed Malay and Portuguese heritage and speak a Portuguese-based creole, eat the same food that Malays eat but insist that it's "Portuguese food" (and that their language is Portuguese).

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Re: General Discussion

Postby Koko » 2014-12-25, 21:36

Shouldn't a race be considered what the majority of them consider themselves? Since a majority of the Métis think themselves Aboriginal, then they should be thought of such by all else. That seems the right thing to do since it wouldn't offend the Métis and it settles a dispute in a democratic way.
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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Re: General Discussion

Postby vijayjohn » 2014-12-26, 2:38

But even the definition of "Métis" is not legally settled, so it's not really possible to identify who "the majority of Métis" are. (Also, often, these kinds of things are political issues. For example, my understanding is that the reason why Mestizos are not considered part of the indigenous population is because of a "caste system," so to speak, that the Spanish imposed).


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