księżycowy wrote:And also, the textbook Diné Bizaad by Goossen is still very much in print and at a reasonable price at the printers website: http://www.salinabookshelf.com/Textbooks.html
I actually just updated the link for that and the other textbook they sell, Diné Bizaad Bínáhoo'aah, in the resources thread. (I also just decided to pick up a copy of that other textbook I just mentioned. Hope it lives up to the hype.)
Also, you maybe disappointed with Breakthrough Navajo after going through a bit of Goossen. Just a heads up.
ceid donn wrote:
Let me know how that other book is. It looks good and I like that there's a workbook. I wanted to the a copy of The Navajo Verb but it seemed beyond my level right now.
I saw several recommendations for this and was hoping it'd been something that could help me cover the basics a little faster than Diné Bizaad. I paid a pretty penny for it and I don't know if I'll be able to return it.
Technical issue: Chrome supports the Navajo keyboard but I cannot get vowels with both the hook and the tone accent mark to appear in the Unilang forms. Does anyone know why?
księżycowy wrote:Technical issue: Chrome supports the Navajo keyboard but I cannot get vowels with both the hook and the tone accent mark to appear in the Unilang forms. Does anyone know why?
What keyboard are you using?
I use the one from Languagegeek, and it works fine in Firefox. I'm not sure about other browsers, as I tend to just use Firefox.
ceid donn wrote:I regret to say I'm going to have to put Navajo on hold and drop out of the NAILC this year. I've been having some less than friendly experiences outside of Unilang relating to the study of Navajo and contemporary Native American culture that has made it sadly unenjoyable for me. So clearly this is not the time for me to be studying it and I think instead of being beaten down by other people's anger and issues, I'll just focus on other languages for now.
ceid donn wrote:Just a dialogue composed of things from Lessons 1-4 (with a couple things from later chapters), for practice:
Yá’át’ééh. Haash yinílyé? > Hello, what is your name?
Cade yinishyé. > My name is Cade.
Haashyit’éego kééh’ót’į́? > How are you doing?
Yá’átéehgo kééhasht’į́. Nishą’? > I'm doing fine. And you?
Yá’átéehgo. Diné bizaad bóhooł’aah daasts’í? > Fine. Are you learning Navajo?
Aoo’, diné bizaad bóhoosh’aah. > Yes, I am learning Navajo.
Nił yá’át’ééh daats’í? > Do you like it?
Aoo’, shił yá’át’ééh. > Yes, I like it.
Nił nantł’a daats’í? > Is it difficult for you?
Aoo’, éí shił nantł’a łeh. > Yes, it is usually difficult for me.
Háadish ííníłta’? > Where do you go to school?
Doo ííníshta’ da. Naashnish. > I don't go to school. I am working.
Háadish nanílnish? > Where do you work?
Ólta’di naashnish. Bá’ólta’í nishłį́. Nishą’? > I work at the school. I am a teacher. And you?
Chidí ánál’ į́įdi naashnish. Naasichgóósh díníyá? > I work at the garage. Are you going to work?
Dooda, díí įį́ doo naashnish da.*** Díí įį́ naasichgóósh díníyá? > No, I don't work today. Are you going to work today?
Aoo’, t’óó hodíína’go. Háágóósh díníyá? > Yes, soon. Where are you going?
Shaghangóó déyá. > I'm going home.
Nízaad́ish? > Is it far?
Dooda, do ńizaad da. > No, it's not far.
Hágoshį́į́. > Ok, bye.
Lá’aa, hágoshį́į. > Ok, bye.
***I wasn't sure if díí įį́ goes inside doo...da or not.
I'll have to check for typos later as i'm pretty tired right now, but if anyone spots one in the meantime, let me know.
ceid donn wrote:I'm reading slowly through the preview of The Navajo Verb on Google Book and thought I'd make a few notes. This is all from Chapter 2--basic analysis of the Navajo verb (some of this is obvious if you know a little a Navajo but it's worth spelling out):
- Navajo verbs are more complex than English verbs, as they simply do not indicate type of action and when the action happens, but can also indicate subject, number of subjects, number of times the action is done and various other information about the action
- Navajo verbs are based on a stem or root, but do not have suffixes like in English, but rather prefixes
- With the exception of few verb form (namely, irregular ones), all Navajo verbs will have at least one prefix. It is important to remember that because of this, the verb stem alone does not consistute a word, only a stem of a word. This is very different from how we view verbs in English.
- Most Navajo verb stems consist of a single syllable, and will always start with a consonant, making them easy to identify
- Navajo verbs will be comprised of a verb base, which is either the stem or the stem plus a prefix that fully define the type of action being done. The book give the example for "to play":
Bill naané (Bill is playing) - Naashné (I'm playing) - Naohné (you two are playing)
Here the stem -né is always seen with na-, with another prefix inbetween providing additional information. The stem -né and prefix na- together make the verb base that indicates the action "am/is/are playing".
N.B.: Not all Navajo verbs will have a verb base that is both a stem and a prefix. Sometimes they will only be a stem. Sometimes, also, they can have more than one prefix in the verb base.
- The two primary things that prefixes need to provide are who is doing the action and when does the action occur. Additional information may be provided but these are the primary things.
- Navajo verbs, like in English and many other languages, can be seperated into transitive and intransitive groups. Intransive verbs will have subject prefixes, while transitive verbs will have both subject and object prefixes. (This will be further addressed later in the book)
- Prefixes can be divided into a pattern of "outer" and "inner" prefixes. Outer prefixes, which are prefixes that help form the verb base, will come first and have a certain arrangment when there are more than one. Inner prefixes will come between the outer prefixes (if there are any outer prefixes) and teh stem, and these too have an arrangment they follow. Something called a classifier, which will be explained later in the book, can sometimes follow all prefixes and immediately preceed the stem.
- In intransitive verbs, the object prefix will be after the outer prefixes but preceed the subject prefixes.
- In this book, prefixes which will indicate subject, object and distributive plural are called inflectional preflexes.The term lexical prefixes is used for thse outer prefixes that are part of the verb base plus other prefixes that are not inflectional. Lexical prefixes can only be at the beginning of the verb or inbetween the "outer" and "inner" prefixes. (Explained further later on in the book)
- When prefixes are put together, certain adjustments may bemade in the pronunciation. There are rules for this, to be explained later in the book.
There is alittle bit more in Chapter 2, but I'm stopping now becuase I'm getting too tired to think about grammar.
P.S. Breakthrough Navajo is okay, not the best text. I give it a 5 out of 10.
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