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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby linguoboy » 2015-03-03, 18:15

IpseDixit wrote:In another post I wrote:

"It's Tuesday, March 3 and I still don't see the results."

But then I thought that maybe I should have written "I still haven't seen"... which one is better?
Depends what variety you're aiming for and what you're trying to express.

For me, there is a distinction. The first I would use when talking about a display problem. That is, I've been told the results are posted, but I've tried viewing them and I can't see them. So I tell someone and they say they'll try to fix it. But I try again a couple days later and still can't see them, so I write to them saying, "It's Tuesday, March 3 and I still don't see the results." The version with present perfect is more generally applicable. Maybe I haven't seen them because they aren't ready yet or maybe because I haven't yet looked for them.
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-03, 18:25

Thanks!

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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-07, 16:13

What's a parkway exactly? Wordreference says it's a broad expressway that goes through a natural park, which doesn't make much sense to me because if it's a natural park then I wouldn't expect to find an expressway in it, and as second translation it gives viale that's to say boulevard in Italian, so I also wonder what the difference is between a boulevard and a parkway...

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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby linguoboy » 2015-03-07, 16:18

IpseDixit wrote:What's a parkway exactly? Wordreference says it's a broad expressway that goes through a natural park, which doesn't make much sense to me because if it's a natural park then I wouldn't expect to find an expressway in it, and as second translation it gives viale that's to say a boulevard in Italian, so I also wonder what the difference is between a boulevard and a parkway...
Depends where you are. In Chicago, for instance, the "parkway" is the grassy strip between the sidewalk and the street (which has a bewildering variety of names in American English).
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-07, 16:25

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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby JackFrost » 2015-03-07, 18:18

In North American sense, a national park doesn't have to be a protected area of vast wilderness. It can even be as small as a city block right in a major city. For example, the Niagara Falls are part of a Canadian national park and it's a fairly large urban area with many green spaces. That's where we could find a parkway or two since the area receives a lot of tourists and the infrastructure has to be important to accommodate them all.

Furthermore, I wouldn't try to make much sense of all the names and apply them universally across the US and Canada as we could do in small countries or countries with a very centralized government. It's because highways are built and run by the states and provinces (including the US interstates and the Trans-Canada system), so they're pretty free to call them whatever they want. Well, that's the best I could explain somewhat logically. :s
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Postby linguoboy » 2015-03-07, 19:42

To be fair, the Chicago definition is pretty aberrant. Most other places I've lived, a "parkway" has been either a scenic highway (e.g. the Blue Ridge Parkway in Virginia and North Carolina) or a tree-lined boulevard with a median strip (e.g. Forest Park Parkway, which runs along the northern edge of Forest Park, the largest municipal park in St Louis, Missouri). I would say "expressway" is a misnomer, since this typically describes a divided highway with limited access such as make up the US Interstate Highway System. You're right that those don't typically run through parks. The Blue Ridge Parkway, for instance, is just a two-lane road with a shoulder in most places, typical of national highways which predate the construction of Interstates. In a sense, it's the opposite of an expressway, since it wasn't built to shorten travel time between urban centres but to provide greater access to an area of great natural scenic beauty. You're expected to stop along the route and the Park Service provides rest areas, picnic sites, and scenic overlooks in order to facilitate this.
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-07, 21:23

Can this qualify as a parkway? And if not, what would you call it?

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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby linguoboy » 2015-03-07, 22:19

IpseDixit wrote:Can this qualify as a parkway? And if not, what would you call it?
For me personally, unless used in the Chicago sense, "parkway" is really only an element in proper names. In St Louis, we talk about "taking the Parkway" when we mean driving down Forest Park Parkway. Offhand, I can't think of any other streets there with "Parkway" in them. (In the same way, people in Chicago call Lake Shore Drive "the Drive", because any other "drive" is likely to be a small residential street of no consequence.)

So I would just call that a "road". It's bigger than a "lane", but it's clearly in a rural area so it's not a "street". If it's a public road, then "rural route" would be another possibility, especially if it's designated as such.
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby ling » 2015-03-08, 3:00

To me, a parkway is any road with "Parkway" in its name.
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby JackFrost » 2015-03-08, 17:47

IpseDixit wrote:Can this qualify as a parkway? And if not, what would you call it?

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That's just a normal road typical of the countryside.

Think something like this.

Yet we have this in Toronto. A true highway with limited access. :? Like I said, we seem to be free to call them anything we want.

Also, I can say "parkway" isn't really a common road term, so I wouldn't put too much time figuring out its exact meaning. At least in my experience. :|
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-08, 19:46

JackFrost wrote:Also, I can say "parkway" isn't really a common road term, so I wouldn't put too much time figuring out its exact meaning. At least in my experience. :|

I think I'm going to follow your advice.

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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-09, 1:25

When I'm spelling something and I need to say that it's two separate words divided by a space, what do I have to say? For instance if I'm spelling New York, what do I have to say after W in order to make the other person understand that a new word is beginning and so they need to leave a space?

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Postby linguoboy » 2015-03-09, 1:28

IpseDixit wrote:When I'm spelling something and I need to say that it's two separate words divided by a space, what do I have to say? For instance if I'm spelling New York, what do I have to say after W in order to make the other person understand that a new word is beginning and so they need to leave a space?
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-09, 1:29

linguoboy wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:When I'm spelling something and I need to say that it's two separate words divided by a space, what do I have to say? For instance if I'm spelling New York, what do I have to say after W in order to make the other person understand that a new word is beginning and so they need to leave a space?
"space"

Ok, wasn't 100% sure. :)

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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby Ciarán12 » 2015-03-09, 1:48

IpseDixit wrote:
linguoboy wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:When I'm spelling something and I need to say that it's two separate words divided by a space, what do I have to say? For instance if I'm spelling New York, what do I have to say after W in order to make the other person understand that a new word is beginning and so they need to leave a space?
"space"

Ok, wasn't 100% sure. :)


Sometimes I say "new word" instead of "space".
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-10, 23:53

Can "satisfied" also mean something like "convinced"? Because I'm watching Border Security Australia's Frontline and when immigration officers have to cancel or approve a visa, they always say "I'm (not) satisfied that you are a genuine tourist" and that sounds quite weird to me.

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Postby Koko » 2015-03-11, 0:04

Maybe it's an Australian dialectism? It sounds odd and just plain wrong to use "satisfied" as a synonym to "convinced." Is it usually said where "convinced" would be better? In some contexts, your example could be taken as "I'm (not) happy that you're a genuine" or something similar, like "It's been confirmed…" or something.
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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-11, 0:10

Koko wrote:"I'm (not) happy that you're a genuine tourist."


Yeah that's what I too would understand if I read that sentence out of context but that cannot be the meaning given the context of the program.

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Re: IpseDixit - English

Postby Dormouse559 » 2015-03-11, 0:56

IpseDixit wrote:Can "satisfied" also mean something like "convinced"? Because I'm watching Border Security Australia's Frontline and when immigration officers have to cancel or approve a visa, they always say "I'm (not) satisfied that you are a genuine tourist" and that sounds quite weird to me.
While "satisfied" would generally be similar to "happy", "satisfied that" pretty transparently means "convinced that" to me (can't say if I use the former regularly, though). While I can imagine Koko's interpretation, it doesn't overpower the usage you heard.

EDIT: Changed my position on Koko's interpretation somewhat.
Last edited by Dormouse559 on 2015-03-11, 1:01, edited 1 time in total.
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