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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby JackFrost » 2013-11-16, 1:02

No, she's doing it right.

For most Catalan speakers, <v> is: /v/ = [β] between vowels, [b] elsewhere, and [p] before a voiceless consonant in the next word.
For Valencian speakers, <v> is: /v/ = [v] in general, [f] before a voiceless consonant in the next word.
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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby Saim » 2013-11-19, 2:23

JackFrost wrote:For Valencian speakers, <v> is: /v/ = [v] in general, [f] before a voiceless consonant in the next word.

Això és més comú a les Illes que al PV.
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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby Núria Harket » 2013-11-19, 21:30

Benvingut/benvinguda IpseDixit!!!

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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby JackFrost » 2013-11-20, 0:11

Saim wrote:
JackFrost wrote:For Valencian speakers, <v> is: /v/ = [v] in general, [f] before a voiceless consonant in the next word.

Això és més comú a les Illes que al PV.

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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby loqu » 2014-03-12, 12:47

Saim wrote:
JackFrost wrote:For Valencian speakers, <v> is: /v/ = [v] in general, [f] before a voiceless consonant in the next word.

Això és més comú a les Illes que al PV.

Depén de la zona; el valencià central i meridional, així com la Plana, també mantenen la [v]. És sobretot l'Horta i la zona septentrional les que han perdut la distinció. Este mapa ho mostra:

http://www.iberolingua.com/pagines_mape ... on_v_b.htm
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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby Saim » 2014-03-12, 21:35

No sabia que hi havia zones al Principat on s'hi conservava la distinció /b/-/v/. :shock: Gràcies, ara he de conèixer algú de Reus per comprovar-ho. :P
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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby Núria Harket » 2014-03-17, 20:42

Hola Saim, lamento dir-te que la distinció ja no es fa des de fa molts anys a l'àrea de Tarragona. Conec molta gent de Reus i absolutament ningú la fa! Ni els de Valls! La meva àvia era de Montblanc i tampoc la feia...

La meva mare quan jo era petita i aprenia ortografia em deia "El vi bo de Valls" pronunciant /v/ - /b/ i a mi em feia molta gràcia perquè sonava moooooooooooolt extrany (i estic parlant quasi del Neolític! :para: )

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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby loqu » 2014-05-29, 18:29

Why would you want to do that? Leave it open and let it sink, just in case you want to study it again in the future. :)
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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby Núria Harket » 2014-05-29, 19:43

Hi IpseDixit

I actually deleted a few "dead" threads last week. I'll think about this one, but I agree with loqu, you might change your mind in the future :roll:

Whatever you decide you'll be always welcome here. :wink:

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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby Saim » 2014-05-29, 19:46

I think it'd be good to leave here because there's good information that can be accesed through a Google search. That's how I ended up on Unilang in the first place - Googling certain things and finding answers here. Thus, I don't think it makes to delete threads with decent information in them even if they're "dead".
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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby Núria Harket » 2014-05-29, 19:49

Saim, maco, creu-me que els que vaig esborrar o no tenien resposta o eren coses inútils totalment dels inicis del fòrum, tranquil :D

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Re: IpseDixit - Catalan

Postby osias » 2014-05-30, 2:06

IpseDixit wrote:whimsicality

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