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Audio for "Where is James?"

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Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby leke » 2013-04-14, 0:07

Does anyone know if there is audio for the "Where is James?" ulrview.php?res=394,415 resource from Unilang? It would be really nice to practice.

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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Reinder » 2013-04-14, 7:48

It's not a big text, so anyone would be able to record it for you. If you want I can do it as well, but I have a pretty "Nordic" accent.
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby leke » 2013-04-14, 12:03

Reinder wrote:It's not a big text, so anyone would be able to record it for you. If you want I can do it as well, but I have a pretty "Nordic" accent.

Yeah, if it's not too much trouble, that would be great :)

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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Reinder » 2013-04-14, 15:40

leke wrote:Yeah, if it's not too much trouble, that would be great :)
Leviwosc is really good at pronouncing very clearly, so I'll wait for his reply and if it turns out he doesn't want to do it, I will record it (probably next weekend).
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Hoogstwaarschijnlijk » 2013-04-21, 18:59

Because I thought it wouldn't hurt to have two or more recordings, I made this one:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0gK0Bcq7u56

It's on vocaroo so if you want to keep it, you need to download it. The quality isn't that good so I hope someone else can make also another one.
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Weerwolf » 2013-04-21, 21:07

Hoogstwaarschijnlijk wrote:Because I thought it wouldn't hurt to have two or more recordings, I made this one:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0gK0Bcq7u56

It's on vocaroo so if you want to keep it, you need to download it. The quality isn't that good so I hope someone else can make also another one.

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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby leke » 2013-04-22, 21:40

Hoogstwaarschijnlijk wrote:Because I thought it wouldn't hurt to have two or more recordings, I made this one:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0gK0Bcq7u56

It's on vocaroo so if you want to keep it, you need to download it. The quality isn't that good so I hope someone else can make also another one.

Thanks, I really appreciate it :)

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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Plaas » 2013-04-25, 16:21

Hier is de mijne:

- Klik
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby leke » 2013-04-25, 17:33

Plaas wrote:Hier is de mijne:

- Klik

Thanks, it's good to hear both male and female.

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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Reinder » 2013-04-25, 17:36

Plaas wrote:Hier is de mijne:

- Klik
Wat is dit voor Westers accent?
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby leke » 2013-04-25, 18:35

Reinder wrote:
Plaas wrote:Hier is de mijne:

- Klik
Wat is dit voor Westers accent?

I haven't heard much Dutch, but when I listened to this, I noticed how some words sounded like they were spoken by a Scouser :D

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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Plaas » 2013-04-25, 20:26

Reinder wrote:
Plaas wrote:Hier is de mijne:

- Klik
Wat is dit voor Westers accent?


Standaardnederlands.
Tessels kan ook, maar daar heeft die jongen niet veel aan.
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Hoogstwaarschijnlijk » 2013-04-26, 8:21

Dank je wel, Weerwolf, graag gedaan, Ieke!

Je leest leuk en goed voor Plaas. Wel handig, meerdere opnames, man/vrouw inderdaad, maar ook net wat verschillende accenten. Wat me opvalt, is dat je opname heel... ouderwets klinkt? Ik bedoel het niet beledigend, maar je klinkt een beetje als mijn oudtante uit Heerde :lol:
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Reinder » 2013-04-26, 12:54

Plaas wrote:Standaardnederlands.
O, dát is dus Standaardnederlands! Zo'n accent heb ik hier nog nooit gehoord, het klinkt een beetje als een keurige versie van hoe ze in Rotterdam en omstreken spreken.
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Hoogstwaarschijnlijk » 2013-04-26, 13:56

Reinder wrote:
Plaas wrote:Standaardnederlands.
O, dát is dus Standaardnederlands! Zo'n accent heb ik hier nog nooit gehoord, het klinkt een beetje als een keurige versie van hoe ze in Rotterdam en omstreken spreken.

Maak je nu een grapje of niet? Standaardnederlands kan met allerlei accenten gesproken worden, jij spreekt evengoed Standaardnederlands als ik of als Plaas. Pas als ik zou zeggen 'hij het langs mij gezeten' of als jij Friese grammaticale constructies door je Nederlands zou gooien, zou het niet meer onder Standaardnederlands vallen.
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Reinder » 2013-04-26, 14:29

Hoogstwaarschijnlijk wrote:Maak je nu een grapje of niet? Standaardnederlands kan met allerlei accenten gesproken worden, jij spreekt evengoed Standaardnederlands als ik of als Plaas. Pas als ik zou zeggen 'hij het langs mij gezeten' of als jij Friese grammaticale constructies door je Nederlands zou gooien, zou het niet meer onder Standaardnederlands vallen.
Nee, ik maakte geen grapje, maar Plaas zegt dat hij met een Standaardnederlands accent sprak.
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Postby Muisje » 2013-04-26, 15:38

Het klinkt als heel, ehm, 'correct' standaardnederlands, zegmaar. Het komt voor mij ook een beetje ouderwets over, door de klinkers (de tweeklanken vooral) en de duidelijke en consistente tongpunt-r. Jouw uitspraak is voor zover ik weet precies hoe het altijd geleerd wordt aan buitenlanders, maar de meeste jongeren (en niet alleen jongeren trouwens) tegenwoordig praten anders (poldernederlands enzo..), daardoor klinkt het een beetje ouderwets.
Heel duidelijk uitgesproken trouwens, je kunt goed voorlezen :)

We hebben allemaal echt heel verschillende accenten geloof ik, dat is wel leuk :) Ik heb ruzie met Vocaroo maar ik ga ook nog wel even een manier vinden om het op te nemen.
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Plaas » 2013-04-26, 17:02

Tja, ik heb Nederlands gestudeerd, zowel in België (Leuven) als in Amsterdam. Daarbij is er ook aandacht aan de correcte uitspraak besteed, in Leuven kreeg je daar zelfs punten voor. Verder heb ik een paar jaar voor de lokale radio gewerkt, in Amsterdam, als presentator en als nieuwslezer. Ook daar was een correcte uitspraak belangrijk. Dat de standaardtaal nu als ouderwets wordt aangevoeld, dat zal de tijdsgeest wel wezen; dat Reinder haar niet eens als zodanig herkende bevestigt dan weer dat het onderwijs die tijdsgeest wel erg in de kaart speelt tegenwoordig.

Overigens heeft een goede vriend van mij haast hetzelfde accent. Hij komt uit Friesland. Een ander, die nu leraar Nederlands is in Luxemburg, komt oorspronkelijk uit Groningen en spreekt ook nog gewoon op deze manier standaardtaal, dus zonder diftongering van de oo en de ee. Zo hoort het ook.
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Muisje » 2013-04-26, 19:54

Plaas wrote:Overigens heeft een goede vriend van mij haast hetzelfde accent. Hij komt uit Friesland. Een ander, die nu leraar Nederlands is in Luxemburg, komt oorspronkelijk uit Groningen en spreekt ook nog gewoon op deze manier standaardtaal, dus zonder diftongering van de oo en de ee. Zo hoort het ook.
Taal verandert, ook de standaardtaal. Daar is niks mis mee.
Het was trouwens vooral je ui/eu/ij die me opvielen :)

Weet iemand wat ik moet doen als vocaroo steeds zegt dat 'nothing was recorded'? Met andere programma's werkt de microfoon prima :|
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Re: Audio for "Where is James?"

Postby Plaas » 2013-04-26, 20:24

Je moet op zeker moment toestemming geven voor het opnemen. Welke browser gebruik je?

Zeker verandert de taal, maar moet het onderwijs op die veranderingen vooruitlopen? Varianten als Poldernederlands en de Gooise r worden nog lang niet algemeen geaccepteerd, er wordt integendeel vaak negatief over gesproken - dan valt er wat voor te zeggen om die uitspraak nog niet via het onderwijs als standaard te propageren. Het onderwijs moet de norm volgen, niet ondermijnen.

Mijn ouders hebben elkaar ontmoet op de PABO in Den Helder. Mijn moeder komt uit die stad, mijn opa was marinier. Bij haar thuis werd ongeveer zo gepraat zoals ik de opname heb ingesproken, mijn familie aan moeders kant spreekt netjes. Mijn vader kwam van Texel, hemelsbreed niet ver, maar toch kwam hij uit een andere wereld: hij was in het dialect opgevoed en sprak Nederlands met een herkenbare Texelse tongval. Dat doet hij nog steeds - hij heeft de PABO dan ook niet af kunnen maken, zijn uitspraak was in die tijd nog een struikelblok.

Tegenwoordig is uitspraak niet zo'n punt meer op de PABO. Misschien zou zo'n nasaal, gerond eilanddialect nog wel worden afgeleerd, maar een stads accent met oow en eej en aai en ejr... Er komen nu massa's meisjes van de PABO met zo'n r. Ik vind het geen plezierig vooruitzicht dat mijn kinderen daar later les van gaan krijgen, mijn Belgische vriendin evenmin.
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