Varislintu wrote:I've never understood this analogy. I mean, before sheep were tamed, they got along just fine even without shephards .
I can't really explain in English why I think everything is energy, but is how I see it. God is pure energy and Jesus was too, kind of, so yes, Jesus is also God. But the thing is, you consider God more like a person, someone/-thing that can know names and I don't. I can't believe such thing, I can't imagine that a personlike God is in heaven or something. I can handle energy thoughpastorant wrote:Jesus is more than an example of how to live. He claimed he was God and that without belief in Him we are all doomed to hell.
That's a pretty bold statement. Someone said he thought we were "energy"? Why do you think so? My God said he created each person individually, and knows them by name even when they don't know Him. I also believe that the God I speak of loves the world so much, he sacrificed himself to pay the penalty for sins we could not pay.
God says that if He did not reveal himself, nobody would know who he was. And then people would create their own philophies. We are all like lost sheep without a shephard. But the master shephard has written laws in stone so we live a life of joy. But we as sinners, REJECT the laws of God. We rebel against the simples rules of Jesus. So we make our own, and find it hard to follow those, but at least they're easier than Jesus's laws, right?
"Love him who hates you". He followed every single law to the letter. When he came to earth as an "avatar" so to speak, lived as man did, had the same temptations and yet lived perfectly, he bore our sins and took the punishment we deserve. If we don't accept his sacrifice, and choose to believe our own thing, we die in our sins
Vogelvrij wrote:God says that if He did not reveal himself, nobody would know who he was.
Nero wrote:I have more to write about this but I'm at school and I can't access any non-educational websites, so I can't write more quotes etc
Yes, I understand it know, thank you.pastorant wrote:Vogelvrij wrote:God says that if He did not reveal himself, nobody would know who he was.
If God did not tell us about himself, we would not know about him. We would make up religions (which we have done) to satisfy us. Do you understand a little better?
The point is, we CAN'T understand God at all, that's why he has to explain it to us. We can't just guess.
Can you explain the internet to a cat? You can't even explain yourself to a cat! A cat would never imagine us. Humans trying to explain God is like 2 computers saying they were created from random parts
Of course you can understand energy. But God the creator of the universe is beyond our direct comprehension, so he came to our level and used terms we can understand. He is like both a mother and a father. He SHOWED us love. He gave us predictions of the future and he performed miracles, then we crucified him because he said "unless you believe in me, you'll go to hell". I understand why they were angry then, just as people are angry now.
Jesus gives us love and mercy, buy he also said he will cause anger, fighting and division in families and nations. Pretty true, huh? That's because people don't WANT to have to answer to anybody. They want to do what they want with accountability. I have kids. That is DEFINITELY true
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