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Risorse Ladine

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Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-04-08, 15:04

Allora, faccio questo post per italiani, nel caso a qualcuno venga mai la voglia di imparare questa lingua. Ormai studiandola da un po' di tempo conosco un po' di materiale e ho deciso di condividerlo con voi.

RISORSE LINGUISTICHE

Premessa: il ladino (delle Dolomiti) è diviso in diversi dialetti, i principali sono 5: fascian, badiot, gherdëina, fodom, anpezo, e non a caso sono quelli in cui troverete più materiale scritto. Nell'ultima decade si è cercato di creare una forma standard, detta ladin standard o ladin dolomitan, il cui successo fino ad oggi è abbastanza discutibile (ad esempio si continua a preferire le diverse varianti anche nella forma scritta e nei media). I 5 dialetti (chiamati anche idiomi di vallata) sono altamente inter-comprensibili, quindi qualunque di essi scegliate, avrete davvero pochi problemi a capire gli altri.

Purtroppo su internet son solamente riuscito a trovare la grammatica del ladino standard scaricabile gratuitamente:

http://www.spell-termles.ladinia.net/do ... S_2001.pdf
(Come potete notare è scritta in ladino, idea geniale dei realizzatori... ma più avanti vi dirò dove trovare alcuni vocabolari). Tenete presente che il ladino standard è un incontro, un incrocio tra i 5 idiomi di vallata, quindi in assenza di altro è comunque del materiale relativamente utile anche se volete imparare uno dei dialetti.

Comunque diversi istituti culturali ladini vendono on-line dei libri di grammatica dei vari idiomi:

http://www.micura.it/
http://www.istladin.net/web/default.asp
http://nuke.istitutoladino.com/
http://www.istitutoladino.it/
http://www.pedagogich.it/

Più in particolare (qui troverete sia molti vocabolari che grammatiche degli idiomi di vallata)
http://www.micura.it/it/shop/cat/19-linguistica
http://nuke.istitutoladino.com/Dizionar ... fault.aspx
http://www.istladin.net/web/shop.asp?fi ... oria&id=66
http://www.istladin.net/web/shop.asp?fi ... ria&id=66#
http://www.istladin.net/web/shop.asp?fi ... oria&id=66
http://www.pedagogich.it/gramgar.html
http://www.libreriauniversitaria.it/cuf ... 8881710553

Esistono comunque anche alcuni dizionari on-line:

Italiano<--->Fascian

http://dilf.ladintal.it/
(notate che se cliccate su note vi si apriranno delle note di grammatica fassana)

Tedesco<--->Badiot e Tedesco<--->Gherdëina
http://www.micura.it/it/attivita/dizionari
(purtroppo in italiano non lo hanno ancora fatto, però potete aiutarvi con wordreference o altri dizionari tedesco<--->italiano)

Italiano<--->Selvano e Italiano<--->Oltrechiusa
http://www.istitutoladino.it/index.php? ... icle&id=45
(sono due dialetti del Cadorino, una variante "periferica" del Ladino, non ve ne avevo parlato fin ora, ma visto che esiste un dizionario on-line ho pensato di aggiungerlo)

Questa è una banca lessicale ladina ( che io trovo utilissima):

http://blad.ladintal.it/applications/di ... ID=4107943

Un correttore ortografico:

http://www.ladinternet.it/

E un archivio del corpus testuale ladino:

http://corpuslad.ladintal.it/

Poi ci sarebbero anche due atlanti linguistici sonori (io onestamente non riesco a far funzionare il primo):

http://www.scrin.net/atlante/
http://ald.sbg.ac.at/ALD/default%20ald%201%202_i.htm

Una specie di FAQ e spiegazioni grammaticali sul Badiot:

http://www.valbadiaonline.it/comunite/c ... st//A.html

Un saggio sull'uso dei pronomi nelle lingue Reto-Romanze:

http://kops.ub.uni-konstanz.de/bitstrea ... sequence=1
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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-04-08, 15:08

MEDIA LADINI

La Usc di Ladins (la voce dei ladini), unico giornale in lingua ladina (almeno che io sappia)

http://www.lauscdiladins.com/Home/Home.aspx

Noeles.info

http://www.noeles.info/

Periodico informativo dell'Istituto Cesa de Jan (sia in italiano che ladino)

http://nuke.istitutoladino.com/Areadown ... fault.aspx

Rai Ladinia

http://www.trail.rai.it/la/index.php

Paladina

http://www.trail.rai.it/video.php

EuroTV

http://www.valbadiaonline.it/comunite/c ... ro-tv.html

Sport Ladin

http://www.valbadiaonline.it/comunite/c ... ladin.html

TvLadina

http://www.tvladina.com/

Orizont

http://www.tmltv.it/video_on_demand.php?id_menu=84

Un altro TG Ladino

http://www.tmltv.it/video_on_demand.php?id_menu=65

L cianton de l'istitut

http://www.tmltv.it/video_on_demand.php?id_menu=120

Canale youtube della Provincia di Bolzano (ha molti video/documentari in ladino)

https://www.youtube.com/user/ProvinziaBulsan

Programazion Ladina TML

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEvulQtjyW036F_4vkbZPiA

Radio Gherdëina

http://www.radiogardena.it/gardena/index.html

---- LIBRI LADINI----

Scaricabili gratis:

http://www.istitutoladino.it/index.php? ... &Itemid=22
http://www.ivansenoner.com/images/IVAN% ... s_scri.pdf
http://www.ivansenoner.com/images/IVAN% ... mepage.pdf

Corpus testuale:

http://corpuslad.ladintal.it/

Scrin.net

http://www.scrin.net/

Una raccolta di racconti e poesie con testo italiano e inglese a fronte

http://www.emiliogalante.com/scores/Amer_volesse.pdf

Libri di un giovane scrittore comprabili per pochi euro:

http://ivansenoner.weebly.com/romanzi.html

Librerie on-line:

http://www.micura.it/it/shop
http://www.istladin.net/web/shop.asp?id=66
http://nuke.istitutoladino.com/Libriepu ... fault.aspx
http://www.ulg.it/ita/pub_ulg.htm
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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby Bernard » 2014-04-08, 15:15

IpseDixit wrote:Allora, faccio questo post per italiani, ...
Per Giove, non solo utile agli italiani! :y:

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-04-08, 15:22

Bernard wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:Allora, faccio questo post per italiani, ...
Per Giove, non solo utile agli italiani! :y:


Eheh sono contento! :)

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby melski » 2014-04-08, 16:54

Bella idea questo thread!

Ho trovato questi racconti in ladino della varietà Gherdëina qui:
http://corpuslad.ladintal.it/applicatio ... NG_ID=7873

è interessante, perché sono testi abbastanza facili e molto corti. Senza nessuna conoscenza della lingua sono riuscito a capire un bel po' delle storie e altri racconti :)
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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-04-08, 17:00

melski wrote:Bella idea questo thread!


Detelpai! Grazie :)

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-04-21, 12:54

Here's how to form plurals in Fascian (more or less it should be the same for other varieties as well):

viewtopic.php?f=119&p=944990#p944990

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby Massimiliano B » 2014-08-19, 15:39

Ho appena acquistato a San Cassiano - sulle Dolomiti - un corso di ladino della Val Badia!!
Non è tempo di lutti / né di follie. / Questo è tempo di Dio. / Che aspettiamo? / Quale segno? / Quale miracolo? /…. (Elena Bono, Morte di Adamo)

https://m.facebook.com/massimiliano.bav ... r&refid=48

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby Massimiliano B » 2014-08-22, 10:19

Il
corso di cui parlavo nel messaggio precedente si chiama Curs de
Ladin (Val Badia) - Corso di ladino (Val Badia)
, e comprende un
libro con 2 CD, diviso in 11 lezioni con spiegazioni grammaticali e
pronuncia, un secondo libro con esercizi e relative
soluzioni, anch'esso suddiviso in 11 capitoli, e un glossario
ladino-italiano e italiano-ladino con 7000 parole. E' edito
dall'Istitut Ladin "Micurà de Rü" e costa 30 euro. Daria Valentin è
l'autrice.
Non è tempo di lutti / né di follie. / Questo è tempo di Dio. / Che aspettiamo? / Quale segno? / Quale miracolo? /…. (Elena Bono, Morte di Adamo)

https://m.facebook.com/massimiliano.bav ... r&refid=48

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-09-04, 8:39

Interessante. Il badiotto è uno dei miei dialetti preferiti. Chissà se lo vendono anche on-line. Controllerò sul sito dell'istituto...

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby Massimiliano B » 2014-09-04, 12:56

È in vendita anche su Internet. Per esempio qui:

http://www.libreriauniversitaria.it/cuf ... 8881710553
Non è tempo di lutti / né di follie. / Questo è tempo di Dio. / Che aspettiamo? / Quale segno? / Quale miracolo? /…. (Elena Bono, Morte di Adamo)

https://m.facebook.com/massimiliano.bav ... r&refid=48



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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-02-13, 23:35

Finalmente hanno creato un dizionario on-line ladino gardenese - italiano / italiano - ladino gardenese :whoo:

http://forniita.ladinternet.it/

e qui c'è la Costituzione italiana tradotta in ladino gardenese:

http://www.provincia.bz.it/avvocatura/download/COSTITUZION__DLA__REPUBLICA__TALIANA_2015(1).pdf

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Re: Risorse Ladine

Postby IpseDixit » 2015-03-14, 0:50

Un libro di poesie in nones, un dialetto di origine ladina che però ha conosciuto uno sviluppo diverso da quello dei dialetti ladini dolomitici.

http://digidownload.libero.it/cima44/po ... nitivo.pdf


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