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Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-10-19, 11:38

Hello everyone.

I need your professional help with bahasa Melayu and Indonesia if different.
Could you translate "Fall in love with Malaysia!" (in the imperative form)?
Looking forward for any suggestions.

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Re: Fall in love

Postby polar » 2008-10-22, 4:53

Hi Pauro,
"Fall in love with Malaysia!" in the imperative is Cintailah Malaysia
Cinta is to love, When you add in -lah the verb turns imperative.

E.g Baca is to read. When -lah is added it means a command or request to read!

Hope that helps....you are most welcome to request for more clarification on this.

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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-10-22, 13:20

Hello
Thanks for your suggestion.
I wonder if "jatuh cintalah" couldn't be used for this request?
Else, don't I neet to put any pronouns like 'dengan' or 'pada' before Malaysia? :hmm:

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Re: Fall in love

Postby polar » 2008-10-22, 15:47

I wonder if "jatuh cintalah" couldn't be used for this request?
Else, don't I neet to put any pronouns like 'dengan' or 'pada' before Malaysia?


The answer is no, but you'll still be understood, though it sounds strange. The beauty of some Asian languages are that most of the pronouns are left out since the context is self explanatory especially in Chinese.

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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-10-22, 19:37

So what's the method to make a difference between "love" and "fall in love", in the case where "cintalah" can mean just "love!" ?

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Re: Fall in love

Postby polar » 2008-10-23, 5:36

I am a bit confused here but nevertheless here's what I am thinking.
So what's the method to make a difference between "love" and "fall in love", in the case where "cintalah" can mean just "love!" ?


Love vs to fall in love

People love things that are pleasant, beautiful, things that give them comfort. But falling in love is dramatic. A sort of "boom factor" . There's something extra in falling in love. General vs specific. Let's say, I love people who smiles - and in this case the Malay word is not cinta but suka or gemar. Saya suka orang yang sentiasa senyum. But there will be instances where I fall in love with her the moment she smiles - Aku jatuh cinta padanya di saat dia tersenyum.

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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-10-23, 18:06

If so, could I use "Jatuh cinta(lah) pada Malaysia!" as a slogan :?:

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Re: Fall in love

Postby polar » 2008-10-24, 9:57

Of course you can, though the current moderrn practice is to drop the "jatuh" and simplify it with style like "Cintailah"! :D

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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-10-25, 19:03

I've got another question - for a commercial saying "Eat an apple daily!" would it be better to put -lah? (MakanLAH apel setiap hari!)
And which word order would be best to emphasize 'daily' ?

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Postby polar » 2008-10-30, 12:54

(MakanLAH apel setiap hari!)
is okay but grammatically a qualifier is added when your refer to things like fruits. Malay is in a sense similar to Chinese where a qualifier is added. In this case the corrected version is (MakanLAH sebiji apel setiap hari!) - the word order with the setiap hari ending rightly emphasised the daily command.

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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-10-30, 17:45

Thanks for last time.

How would you write "Kiss me!"?
Is there a difference between the spoken and written way?

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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-11-09, 21:11

Hello again :)
Have you got such a warning "Do not lean out of the windows!" on trains in Malaysia?
If not how would you put the sentence to sound like a warning?
Would you use 'dilarang' or 'jangan' in this case?

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Re: Fall in love

Postby mimi-chen » 2008-12-11, 20:21

Pauro wrote:Thanks for last time.

How would you write "Kiss me!"?
Is there a difference between the spoken and written way?


There is no difference.But usually we don't say "ciumlah saya".We just say "kiss me".

Pauro wrote:Hello again :)
Have you got such a warning "Do not lean out of the windows!" on trains in Malaysia?
If not how would you put the sentence to sound like a warning?
Would you use 'dilarang' or 'jangan' in this case?


You use "Dilarang bersandar" if you were to put a signboard there. But you should say "jangan sandar di situ!" if you see someone is leaning out of a window.
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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-12-11, 20:37

So, you use English for 'kissing'? Talking about pure Malay, wouldn't it be better to say 'cium saya' than 'ciumlah'?

Bersandar means 'lean against' - push your back against the door, for example. I mean 'lean out' which is 'stick your head/body out from inside'.

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Re: Fall in love

Postby mimi-chen » 2008-12-11, 21:02

I can't say which one is better because both are correct. Example: You have a date with your girlfriend/boyfriend.When it's time to say goodbye you say "cium saya" to her/him.After that if he/she still doesn't want to kiss you, you would say "ciumlah saya" (in a seductive tone).

Pauro wrote:Bersandar means 'lean against' - push your back against the door, for example. I mean 'lean out' which is 'stick your head/body out from inside'.


Ahh..that's what you meant..In that case i would umm..say (in bahasa baku) "Dilarang mengeluarkan kepala/badan melalui tingkap semasa keretapi sedang bergerak".That sounds a bit funny actually.I've never seen such sign anywhere in Malaysia.
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Re: Fall in love

Postby Pauro » 2008-12-11, 21:36

Hi. Thanks for that. I guess 'dari tingkap' could be fine too?

What translation would you suggest for such a tourist slogan: 'Fall in love with Malaysia!' ? Something different than just 'cintailah' if possible... :ohwell:

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Re: Fall in love

Postby mimi-chen » 2008-12-12, 7:36

Haha..yes you are right.'dari tingkap' is fine too.

I'll get back to you later about the slogan.Need to rush right now.
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Re: Fall in love

Postby bodolahman » 2010-05-14, 1:56

Pauro wrote:Hello everyone.

I need your professional help with bahasa Melayu and Indonesia if different.
Could you translate "Fall in love with Malaysia!" (in the imperative form)?
Looking forward for any suggestions.


Saya berpendapat alihbahasanya seperti ini lebih tepat dan kena dengan keadaan:

"Jatuh cinta dengan Malaysia"

Cintailah Malaysia mungkin boleh digunakan, namun ianya kurang tepat secara collocation.

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Re: Fall in love

Postby polar » 2010-06-29, 16:28

bodolahman tulis
Saya berpendapat alihbahasanya seperti ini lebih tepat dan kena dengan keadaan:

"Jatuh cinta dengan Malaysia"

Cintailah Malaysia mungkin boleh digunakan, namun ianya kurang tepat secara collocation.


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Re: Fall in love

Postby BubbaKiki » 2010-08-22, 13:25

yes there were such signs in the old railway system on the trains, when i was a kid. It went something like ..

[flag]ms[/flag]"Bahaya : Jangan keluarkan kepala anda ditingkap ketika keretapi sedang bergerak."
[flag]en[/flag]"Danger : Do not stick your head out of the window while the train is moving."

but i might not remember the exact words correctly. perhaps someone lost their head once. It is no longer on the trains, i think the rail system is perhaps safer now, i.e. larger clearance to the side obstacles.
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