A General Discussion Thread in Indonesian

[laoshu]

Halo semua!
Apa kabar forum ini sekarang?

[Meera]

Halo laoshu Apa kabar?

[vijayjohn]

Selamat siang! Masih ada orang di sini yang mau belajar atau berbahasa Indonesia/Melayu?

[vijayjohn]

Tidak?

[atalarikt]

Wah, tampaknya thread ini sepi juga ya.

[vijayjohn]

Saya sudah kembali! Sekarang ada orang yang mau tulis di sini?

[IpseDixit]

Do Indonesian and Malay have diglossia?

[TeneReef]

Do Indonesian and Malay have diglossia?

Yes.
Both Ferguson's and Fishman's diglossic relationship can be found.

On Bali, many people have Balinese as L, and [standard] Indonesian as H,
On Java, many people have Javanese as L, and [standard] Indonesian as H,
in Manado, most people have Manado Malay as L, and [standard] Indonesian as H
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manado_Malay

Most Indonesian courses teach the superformal H variety which does not sound natural anywhere in Indonesia outside newscasts.

Indonesia:
population: 252 million
L1 speakers of Indonesian: 23 million

Diglossia is the mildest in Northeast Sumatra, where local L and H are like dialectally-colored colloquial Malay and standard Indonesian.

[IpseDixit]

Thanks.

[TeneReef]

Thanks.

more info on Indonesian diglossia:

this evolutionary process towards diglossia (rather than an informal
variety that was not diglossic) may have been influenced by speakers of
diglossic languages like Javanese and Sundanese feeling a need to interact in
a diglossic fashion with other Indonesians.

http://trans-int.org/index.php/transint ... load/91/77

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/s ... -Diglossia

[TeneReef]

source:
Watching Si Doel: Television, Language and Identity in Contemporary Indonesia
By Klarijn Loven