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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-01, 5:50

and I asked that question because he said Nithalos.
I thought it was a mix up or he was writing the pronunciation of X
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Postby ILuvEire » 2008-12-01, 5:52

Kanjese wrote:yes why?


Because I had to read your previous post a few times to understand what you meant. Where are you from (if you don't mind me asking)?
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby hashi » 2008-12-01, 20:17

o_O

Just to clear it up..

English Name: NITHALOS
Native Name: NÏXALOS

and yes... <x> is [θ]...........
but I'm not going into the reasoning for that again ><

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Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-01, 22:28

okay okay I know that.

But I just wanted to know
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-02, 2:24

ILuvEire wrote:
Kanjese wrote:yes why?


Because I had to read your previous post a few times to understand what you meant. Where are you from (if you don't mind me asking)?


I'm from Hawaii. and I don't mind at all.
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby sa wulfs » 2008-12-02, 9:37

Oh, I thought you had given in to peer pressure. Nevermind then.
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby hashi » 2008-12-08, 5:19

Ok so it took a little longer than I thought to find a song I wanted to translate.
But, I've translated my current favourite song: Basshunter - I can walk on water, I can fly.
Simply, because it is a simple song to translate and also means a fair bit. I'll include some notes on poetic nithalos after it.

la la la la la la la la
la la la la la la la la (x3)

Mave mayel mï neđaöxnï
mï övarï ukrelana čuker ï
mï vođmaya uđe arukïva, lyečamïva
şïnen lyečamana čuker a

Mave mayel mï kaövroxnï
mï övarï ukrelana čuker ï
mï vođmaya uđe arukïva, lyečamïva
şïnen lyečamana čuker a

la la la la la la la la (x7)

la la la la la la la la la la la la
la la la la la la la la (x3)

Mave mayel mï kaövroxnï
mï övarï ukrelana čuker ï
mï vođmaya uđe arukïva, lyečamïva
şïnen lyečamana čuker a

la la la la la la la la (x4)

la la la la la la la la la la la la
la la la la la la la la (x7)


Translation for those who don't know the song:
Mave mayel mï neđaöxnï
mï övarï ukrelana čuker ï
mï vođmaya uđe arukïva, lyečamïva
şïnen lyečamana čuker a

I will never be the same again
I will keep on fighting till the end
I can walk on water, I can fly
I will keep on flying till I die

Mave mayel mï kaövroxnï
mï övarï ukrelana čuker ï
mï vođmaya uđe arukïva, lyečamïva
şïnen lyečamana čuker a

I will never be afraid again
I will keep on fighting till the end
I can walk on water, I can fly
I will keep on flying till I die


Technical Notes:
Mave mayel mï neđaöxnï
Unpoetic this would have to have "yul" after "mï". Poetic language tends to leave most particles out.

mï övarï ukrelana čuker ï
there should be a "yob" after "övarï" in unpoetic. To keep the rhyming, a nonsense ï was added to the end. As nithalos never has single letter words, a native speaker would know its nonsense. You could almost have it sounding like a kinda of pant or sigh at the end of the sentence which helps it rhyme. It happens in english :P

mï vođmaya uđe arukïva, lyečamïva
should be a "yal" particle after "uđe". TECHNICALLY speaking, the pronoun "Mï" should be repeated after the comma, but we'll let it slide :P

şïnen lyečamana čuker a
Once again, the nonsense "a" to keep the rhyme

the last sentence thats different to the rest is:
Mave mayel mï kaövroxnï
just as before, there should be a "yul" after the "mï"

This song believe it or not, is actually singable!!
I did it :)
Sure I had to squish some words up but it works :)

that was a bit of fun ^^

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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby hashi » 2008-12-08, 5:42

To demonstrate the twisting of words poetically in nithalos, I have also translated the chorus to the Lion King song "In the jungle"

In the jungle, the mighty jungle
The lion sleeps tonight
In the jungle, the mighty jungle
The lion sleeps tonight

đanka yal, uyeröxi đanka
seyča layon nekrïč
đanka yal, uyeröxi đanka
seyča layon nekrïč


In normal nithalos, you should be saying:
đanka yal, uyeröxi đanka
seyča layon öy nekričïx

However, like previously, particles tend to be omitted.

Nekričïx was simply too long to fit the sentence, even in unpoetic language just nekričï would be acceptable but this is still quite a moutful to say quickly. so, the -ičï gets contracted to just -ïč therefore shortening it making it fitable and making it easier to say. There is no definate rule to contracting verbs in poetics, which I guess would make it much harder to decipher.

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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-09, 1:02

interesting thank you.
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby Tailenesia » 2008-12-20, 6:56

Kanjese
Saingda kibuyo? Lekaleka do bu do tai ya!

Kanjese wrote:interesting thank you.

Kabokabo sai sakin dal. NAGA KAN TIUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby hashi » 2008-12-21, 1:15

前のポースト英語に訳してもらえるん?
Can you translate your previous post into english?

ぜんぜん分からないからだ。
I can't understand it at all.

どうも
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-23, 6:33

Tailenesia wrote:Kanjese
Saingda kibuyo? Lekaleka do bu do tai ya!

Kanjese wrote:interesting thank you.

Kabokabo sai sakin dal. NAGA KAN TIUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She said
" Interesting huh? Sometimes you can do better than that!

This really disturbs me. WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby hashi » 2008-12-23, 8:22

Would she like to explain what she means by that?

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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby Tailenesia » 2008-12-24, 1:40

mrhashimoto wrote:Would she like to explain what she means by that?


NO NEVER!!!!!!! :evil: :evil:

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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby hashi » 2008-12-24, 2:06

To be quite honest, I don't like your attitude. There is no point in posting things that no one can understand or you won't explain. So please don't do it because it is honestly starting to ANNOY ME.

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Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-24, 5:05

Really don't worry about it... I'm the only person she knows...
She'll get nicer and nicer I mean it.
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby sa wulfs » 2008-12-24, 15:35

mrhashimoto wrote:To be quite honest, I don't like your attitude. There is no point in posting things that no one can understand or you won't explain. So please don't do it because it is honestly starting to ANNOY ME.

Be more positive and try to decipher it. It could be interesting.
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Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-24, 18:12

"decipher it" as in what? find the meaning of the language or the meaning of why she did that?
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Postby sa wulfs » 2008-12-24, 19:29

"Decipher" as in "figure out the grammatical structure and, with any luck, deduce the meaning of one or two words". That should be fascinating, I'd do it if I had the energy.
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Re: Nïxalos, language of the Vïnčas people

Postby Kanjese » 2008-12-25, 2:15

If Mrhashimoto would've done that (decipher), Kanjese is impossible to decipher. Every sentence has a different format for different tenses like "I am buying a book in a "normal tense" would be "Soygan koy da suknia" but if you said it with an excited tense, it would be "Soygan kol da suknia chiatia" (Koy and Kol mean buy and Chiatia is what you say when your excited.)
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