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Ditronó

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-10-25, 7:54

Made some new words, especially for animals, inspired by Looney Toons and other cartoons. :silly:

elsos = cold ( Elsa )
tveter = bird ( Tweety )
marvurg = alien ( Marvin the Martian )
bunger = bunny/rabbit ( Bugs Bunny )
murfer = donkey ( Eddie Murphy gave his voice to the donkey in Shrek )
barnurg = neighbour ( Barni from The Flinstones )
dafer = duck ( Daffy Duck )
dumber = elephant ( Dumbo, the elephant )
tomjerurg = friend ( Tom and Jerry )
simber = lion ( Simba, the lion)
silvestros = sly ( Sylvester, the cat )
porker = pig ( Porky Pig )
miker = mouse ( Mikey mouse )
Last edited by Levike on 2014-11-04, 23:28, edited 1 time in total.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-10-26, 0:34

Conjugation of verbs:
Atemporal-----SimplePresentPastFutureContinuousPresentPastFuture
1stome1stomibomuom1stiomibiomujom
2ndove2ndovibovuov2ndiovibiovujov
3rdote3rdotibotuot3rdiotibiotujot


I dramatically changed almost the whole verbal system.
The problems were that the continuous endings were too long and there were too many v letters.

Changes:

1. The simple past is formed with adding "ib" to the ending depicting the person.
Ex: trez + ib + óm = trezibóm ( I saw )
I chose "ib" because of the word "bemvibs" (gone, passed) and because now it's similar to Latin.
Ex: katribóm = I gave ( see Latin: amabam = I loved )

2. The future is formed by adding "u" to the ending depicting the person.
Ex: trez + u +om = trezuom ( I will see )
I chose the the "u" because I wanted to have a "uo" combination like in Italian "continuo".

3. The continuous looks exactly like the simple one, but with an extra i, ex:
bemvóm = I go
bemvióm = I am going
nikibóm = I saw
nikibióm = I was seeing

4. New atemporal tense, for unknown or indefinite periods of time, ex:
klosót = circles
klosóte = circles ( like the Earth around the Sun)
dihmót = sleeps
dihmóte = sleeps ( we don't know exactly when )
Now it's similar to the Ancient Greek passive voice: λύομαι, λύῃ/λύει, λύεται
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-11-01, 10:50


ConsonantsVowels
p - /p/ , b - /b/
t - /t/ , d - /d/
k - /k/ , g - /ɡ/
f - /f/ , v - /v/
s - /s/ , z - /z/
j - /j/ , h - /h/
l - /l/ , r - /r/
m - /m/ , n - /n/
ts - /ts/
a - /a/ , á - /a:/
e - /e/ , é - /e:/
i - /i/ , í - /i:/
o - /o/ , ó - /o:/
u - /u/, ú - /u:/

Changed the vowel structure a little bit, introducing a long version for every vowel.

Rules:

- Each sentence is divided into units:
So, did you know that the red fox quickly jumped over that sleepy dog?
- There must be only one long vowel in each unit.
- They follow this priority: o > a > i > e > u
- If the vowel with the priority appears more times in a unit,
then the one that's preceded by a consonant cluster or the last one.

Example:

Intler turá mene nikibót svanstut iksós ima tavró tema.
/intler tura: mene nikibo:t svansut ikso:s ima tavro: tema/
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-11-08, 16:32

New words for colours:

colour ---> kelstaró ( Caelestis arcus - Latin for rainbow )

red ------> stóps ( Stop signs are red )
orange --> kísins ( Citrus sinensis - Latin for orange )
yellow ---> kílimnos ( Citrus limon - Latin for Lemon )
green ---> lepréks ( Leprechauns )
cyan -----> uráns ( Uranus's clouds are cyan )
blue -----> hels ( Hellas or Greece, because everything is blue )
purple ---> kesrós ( Cesar, purple was the colour of royalty )

black ----> kóls ( Cola )
grey -----> pandós ( Panda, since grey = black + white )
white ----> púrs ( Purus, pure, pur )
Last edited by Levike on 2014-12-21, 13:38, edited 1 time in total.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-11-14, 21:53

Monday I have a programming test so for a very quick exercise
I made a program to calculate the composition of my conlang's grammar given some input.

These were the results:

16.4% Romanian
15.0% Greek
14.2% English
11.4% Hungarian
10.2% German
6.1% Spanish

30.9% Romance
26.9% Germanic
15.0% Hellenic
10% Slavic

Sadly I haven't learnt how to make nice graphics and diagrams in Java.
But percentages are good enough.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-11-19, 9:00

Ditronian script, I hope you guys like it.

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Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Koko » 2014-11-19, 9:07

What's it say? Transliteration please n.n? It looks very pretty.
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-11-19, 9:17

It's the first couple of verses from the Lord's Prayer.

The alphabet has 26 letters, each of them representing one sound.

It's entirely based on the Latin alphabet.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-11-27, 11:01

I'm thinking about renaming Ditronian.

Have any of you given a name to their conlang, one that has an actual meaning?
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Koko » 2014-11-27, 15:46

The actual name for Isyan in Isyan is Mebeya Isyo (the language of Isya). This is often just instead Isya, which is the country's name meaning "The Land of Warriors" (izba + isya = isya).

Simdo has no meaning, it is an arbitrary name given to the language.

You could do either. If you have a word for its speakers and/or country, it would be better to base it off of those.
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-11-27, 19:11

I don't really have a name for either of them.

I was thinking about the word for "speech",
but then I would get sentences like "I speak speech", which sound totally odd.

:hmm:
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Dormouse559 » 2014-11-27, 19:48

They need not be related to translate as "speak" and "speech". Maybe there are two verbs that translate as "speak". One is used to derive the language name, and the other isn't. Maybe there is a verb meaning "speak" and an unrelated noun meaning "speech". The noun is also used for the language name. (And a verb derived from it could mean "speak" and/or "speak Ditronian/what have you.")
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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-12-16, 20:01

A little change.

Ó - no
Ivi - not
Ló - yes
Aga - indeed

Ó, ivi bemvóm ustró ima. = No, I'm not going home.

Ló, íte aga vutót rolkó ima jests. = Yes, she's learning right now.

Question: What's the difference between "no" and "not"? Is there a terminology for this?
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby linguoboy » 2014-12-16, 20:39

Levike wrote:Question: What's the difference between "no" and "not"? Is there a terminology for this?

I would call them both "negative particles". The difference is primarily one of usage. "No" is preferred as a response particle (viz. your example above) and as a determiner ("No friends of mine were there"); "not" is preferred for sentence negation ("I'm not going"), negating adjectives ("a not bad film"), and in word formation (e.g. "have-not", "not-for-profit"). But there are plenty of exceptions (e.g. "he's a no good thing", "no way am I coming").
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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-12-16, 21:13

Could I do the same thing in my conlang for "yes"?

1. No, that's wrong. <==> Yes, that's right.

2. I am not going. <==> I am 'yes' going.

'Cause I want the word "aga" to be for "ló" the same thing that the English "not" is for "no".
Previously I just translated "aga" as "surely" or "indeed".
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby linguoboy » 2014-12-16, 21:23

Levike wrote:Could I do the same thing in my conlang for "yes"?

Sure, why not?
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Re: Ditróno

Postby Dormouse559 » 2014-12-16, 21:42

Doesn't Spanish do this?

Wiktionary wrote:Él sí puede, yo no = He (positively) can, I can not.
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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-12-16, 21:57

Dormouse559 wrote:Él sí puede, yo no = He (positively) can, I can not.
That's what I was asking for. :P
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-12-23, 17:21

I wanted to get rid of modal verbs so I replaced them with colours.

green = ability
red = something being prohibited or not possible
orange = uncertain ability, probable at the end
grey = uncertain ability, not probable at all
blue = obligation

Lépreks aja bemvóm. = I can go. (lit: It's green that I go)

Stóps aja borskóm. = I cannot drink (lit: It's red that I can drink)

Kísins aja vesti samsónom. = I may call you (lit: It's orange that I may call you)

Pandós aja elenóm. = I may not sing (lit: It's grey that I sing)

Hels aja bablóm vertósti. = I have to tell you the truth (lit: It's blue that I tell you the truth)

What do you think?
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Ditróno

Postby Levike » 2014-12-27, 18:06

What's the difference between "like" and "as"?

I want to create equivalent postpositions for my conlang, but I'm not sure about the usage.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.


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