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Info about your conlangs

Postby ltrout » 2015-01-21, 23:17

I have been creating conlangs based off European languages ever since I started. I want to development a germanic/slavic conlang but I always end up using either way to many vowels which makes it seam more European to me, or way to many consonants, that it extremely hard to pronounce. So I want to konw about your conlangs. On a scale from 1-20, 1 being your conlang is based highly on vowels, 20 being your conlang is highly based on consonants, determine what you think yours is and then post it with an example sentence below, with translations!!
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Levike » 2015-01-21, 23:37

I never looked at how many vowels or consonants it had.
If I can pronounce it then it's good enough.

I would say mine gets an 11.
In this sentence there are ~31 consonants and ~26 vowels.

Tavró bea blós ívi érteló memu ustró babsbólermat bea, liks aglivó eva.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby ltrout » 2015-01-21, 23:42

Levike wrote:I never looked at how many vowels or consonants it had.
If I can pronounce it then it's good enough.

I would say mine gets an 11.
In this sentence there are ~31 consonants and ~26 vowels.

Tavró bea blós ívi érteló memu ustró babsbólermat bea, liks aglivó eva.

I like your conlang a lot! Could you translate that sentence?
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Levike » 2015-01-21, 23:48

"Here in the students' dorm I don't have any TV, but having internet is good enough."

I just copy-pasted the sentence from the Person After Me game.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Mentilliath » 2015-01-23, 2:19

It's hard to say, but maybe somewhere in the middle? 12 perhaps? Lot of vowels in Halvian, lot of CV syllables as well. But there are also numerous consonant combinations. It can have up to CVCCC (or CCCVC) syllables; I don't think there are any bigger than that, and these are rare anyway (words like "belmenomst" and "stlantes").

Here's a sentence:

Halvar lat gebra modebulvorom kamom, an linteth avoriliath.

"Halvian is a language of many consonants (lit. "hard sounds"), but still melodious."

27 consonants, 19 vowels in that sentence.
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Ahzoh » 2015-01-23, 3:52

I don't know, you can consult my wiki page:
http://www.frathwiki.com/%C5%A0arad_Yat ... a%E1%BA%95

C:V = 42:8
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Koko » 2015-01-23, 7:02

:hmm: I think Isyan is fairly similar to Halvian: quite a few CV/VC syllables but still a fair amount CCCV(C) and (C)VCCC syllables.

Here's an example: Allos peun nes rinevue osulio glotu ondyefone ne sijen.
— Allos reads stories from a book to himself before sleeping through the night.

24:21 (C:V) ratio right there. I'd say that's about 9, 10, or 11.
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby ltrout » 2015-01-23, 21:51

Koko wrote::hmm: I think Isyan is fairly similar to Halvian: quite a few CV/VC syllables but still a fair amount CCCV(C) and (C)VCCC syllables.

Here's an example: Allos peun nes rinevue osulio glotu ondyefone ne sijen.
— Allos reads stories from a book to himself before sleeping through the night.

24:21 (C:V) ratio right there. I'd say that's about 9, 10, or 11.

What, if any, languages is your conlang based on? It looks a little bit like Portuguese mixed with something else?
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Koko » 2015-01-23, 23:23

It is a hundred percent a priori. I'm a little disappointed you thin it Portuguese-y — one of my least favourite languages. But I think that means it's realistic :P , in any case.
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby ltrout » 2015-01-24, 0:31

Koko wrote:It is a hundred percent a priori. I'm a little disappointed you thin it Portuguese-y — one of my least favourite languages. But I think that means it's realistic :P , in any case.

Haha, it does look realistic! And I'm sorry I said Portuguese.. Haha. But I like your conlang.
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Ashucky » 2015-01-24, 16:27

According to WALS, the consonant-vowel ratio of Laefêvëši is pretty average (although it has large inventories of both vowels and consonants). I guess that'd put it around 10 on your scale.

And here's a random example:
Þáda nûha tók kóettonoksi li níorasli vríhtisás, van-gø sǿt góottottónnénos.
Grown-ups never understand anything by themselves, and it is tiresome for children to be always and forever explaining things to them.
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Levike » 2015-01-24, 23:59

One more question, what are your favourite consonants and vowels to use?

Mine seems to have a bunch of b's, v's, s's, some m's and especially a lot of t's.

As for vowels it's full of o's.
Hungarian (hu) Nem egy nap alatt épült Buda vára. _______German (de) Wo ein Wille ist, da ist auch ein Weg.
English (en) Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. __Spanish (es) No hay ceguera peor que no querer mirar.
Romanian (ro) Nu întinde arcul până nu este bine aşezată săgeata.

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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby ltrout » 2015-01-25, 4:02

Levike wrote:One more question, what are your favourite consonants and vowels to use?

Mine seems to have a bunch of b's, v's, s's, some m's and especially a lot of t's.

As for vowels it's full of o's.

My favorite Consonants are: S, T, M, and L. Vowels: A, I, O
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Mentilliath » 2015-01-25, 4:32

My two favorite consonants are /s/ and /θ/ and there are an abundance of these sounds in my language (the over-use of /s/ is partly based on PIE). I also really like /n/, /l/, /v/, /m/, and /gʷ/.

My favorite vowel is probably /a/ and I seem to use it the most. /e/ and /ɛ/ are also quite common. Halvian words that contain only these sounds, like "séleth", "thélenas", "guásthen”, sound especially nice to me :)
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Re: Info about your conlangs

Postby Koko » 2015-01-25, 5:11

I tend towards /v/, /s/, /m/, and /r/. I think my favourite vowel is /A/, /o/ and /E/ are fairly common too. /u/ and /h/ are less common.
 (it) Correggimi per favore (se lo sbaglio è grave, sennò non correggermi perché potrei correggermelo da solo)  (bg) Българският не е руски  (cs) Jsem krásný jazyk. :D ^^

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3 vowels, 9 consonants

Postby SostiMatiko » 2015-02-10, 9:41

Dama having only 3 vowels and 9 consonants, i cannot say which is prevalent. Normally every consonant must be followed by a vowel, but if some people want to omit unstressed final u/o, that is a permissible dialect.
Since you ask for an example with glossing, here you are:

a wo ma kujen mito kumo, a wo un kuja maman;
a wo ma bajen bawo kumo, a wo un wine.

A you WO plural MA to (postposition in –a) KUJEN play (verb with –en means the object follows. The subject is NOT stated) MITO KUMO sweet sound (happy music), A WO you (group, plural) UN not KUJA MAMAN playfully – moving (here the adverb takes the place of a passive verb; MAME means to move something, for moving oneself we use the noun as infinitive “MAMO” =moving, or an adverb as here, or the active MAMEN KIRO =move self).
A WO MA (to you, as before) BAJEN make art (verb with –en means the object follows. The subject is NOT stated) BAWO KUMO bitter sound (sad music), A WO you (group, plural) UN not WINE weep.
Translation: (we) played happy music to you, you did not dance; (we) played sad music to you, you did not weep.
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Re: 3 vowels, 9 consonants

Postby Shmuel » 2015-03-10, 3:03

SostiMatiko wrote:Dama having only 3 vowels and 9 consonants, i cannot say which is prevalent. Normally every consonant must be followed by a vowel, but if some people want to omit unstressed final u/o, that is a permissible dialect.
Since you ask for an example with glossing, here you are:

a wo ma kujen mito kumo, a wo un kuja maman;
a wo ma bajen bawo kumo, a wo un wine.

A you WO plural MA to (postposition in –a) KUJEN play (verb with –en means the object follows. The subject is NOT stated) MITO KUMO sweet sound (happy music), A WO you (group, plural) UN not KUJA MAMAN playfully – moving (here the adverb takes the place of a passive verb; MAME means to move something, for moving oneself we use the noun as infinitive “MAMO” =moving, or an adverb as here, or the active MAMEN KIRO =move self).
A WO MA (to you, as before) BAJEN make art (verb with –en means the object follows. The subject is NOT stated) BAWO KUMO bitter sound (sad music), A WO you (group, plural) UN not WINE weep.
Translation: (we) played happy music to you, you did not dance; (we) played sad music to you, you did not weep.
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